Harley Benton DC-Junior FAT Faded Cherry

This is a great DC JR for the money, and a good guitar overall. I’ve read complaints that the neck isn’t really fat- it’s almost identical to my 06’ Gibson SG special with the “rounded” profile and also very similar to my 2018 MIM fender telecaster. Its not like a Gibson slim taper. I think this really is very close to a 1959 Gibson profile. I get hand pain from slim necks and do not with this neck. I was able to lower the bridge almost all the way down, I could set it too low with too much fret buzz, the bridge definitely goes low enough. I changed to 9-42 strings, intonation can be dialed in using the saddles , without having to push the bridge away from the posts. Standing with a strap, the guitar is well balanced with no neck dive. I found the pickup a little quieter than the 490T in my SG, and installed a spacer and added foam under the pickup to raise its height which increased volume and fatness, but it’s still a little less powerful compared to my SG. I planned to swap it for a genuine p90, and I might some day, but the original sounds good. The push/pull coil split is quite noticeable using my OR15 even with a lot of gain, but I can only hear a difference with my Marshall valvestate using a clean setting. The tuning machines work fine, but I may replace them at some point. I like the volute, it’s a smart design and doesn’t get in my way playing. The finish is very flat and smooth, doesn’t seem to be open pore. The fret ends are smooth and frets level. The nut was cut well. The tone and volume pots give a good range of adjustment, though the tone pot has a very loose feel. I guess the only thing that separates this guitar from a more costly guitar is the wood-it feels light and low density. The lightness has it’s benefit, but it also feels a little cheap. However, it sounds and plays great, fully functional, very resonant, has great sustain, the neck feels solid, it stays in tune, it looks good, and is put together very well. It’s not just good for the price, it’s a good guitar. I bought this because I’m a fan of the Gibson double cut Junior design, and I wanted a guitar to use in E std tuning, drop D, and even drop A (Melvins/Kylesa), and it’s been great. It’s a great punk guitar as well as blues, rock, and even heavier sludgy sounds. I don’t think this would be the best choice for low standard tunings because the bridge would have to move back significantly to get good intonation with larger than 10-46 strings. After owning it a few months, I think it’s a keeper. Shipping to the US was incredibly fast, ordered Tuesday and arrived Friday. 100% satisfied and impressed.

UPDATE!
I bought 2 more of these recently on the hopes that corrections had been made to the model. All of the issues that I'd complained about previously (except for the bridge) have been corrected on these last two. The nut is carved well and the width at the nut is appropriately wider. The necks, although slightly different on each, are definitely better as far as thickness and taper. They really do feel reminiscent of the vintage classic this model is based on. The woods are even better than before and the matching of the two-piece bodies is better than Gibson is doing these days. If they would change the bridge (I've sent them the info) and set the neck to accommodate it height-wise, the strings would be correctly aligned over the pickup and this guitar would be hands down the best DC Junior guitar available anywhere. It's that good now! In retrospect, I suspect that when I bought my first two, the builder got behind in production of this model and simply rewired some of the "regular" model to meet demand. These are made right, except for the bridge setup. If Harley Benton ever changes that, I will definitely buy a couple more of these. In the meantime, they are not perfect YET, but I love these last two and I feel most players looking for that "classic" feel will be happy with them too!

OLD Review:
I bought 2 of these based on the advanced announcement of how great the necks and overall feel were. What a joke!

Both of mine had nut widths of a little over 42mm instead of the advertised 43mm (big difference in feel). The so-called "Fat 59" necks are smaller than a Gibson Slim taper and even Ibanez AS & AM models. Those are known for being slim. The nuts on both were very poorly cut and will have to be replaced.

The bridge feels awful on the hand (sharp edges) and the saddles sit way too high, causing the builders to have to pitch the neck back too much. The off neck pitch causes the strings to be really far from the pickup, so it sounds anemic, even when the bridge is lowered all the way down. That's a shame because the pickup is pretty good if you shim it up closer to the strings by several millimeters. Thomann should supply spacer brackets to anyone who has bought these, just to get the pickups within acceptable distance from the strings. Actually, they should get the bridge height and neck angle right – then the pickup height would be okay!

The tuners on one of mine were installed with no attempt to align them in a straight line - the back of each tuner is going a different direction. I guess they don't have rulers or anything with a straight edge in the factory where these are made.

The finish is not the advertised "thinly applied open pore" type - it's the the usual poly glop in a drab satin finish like the regular DC Jr. model. In fact, both of mine seem identical to the regular model in every way except for the lame push/pull pickup (and the higher price). The fingerboard even looks the same as the regular models in other videos!

As far as being a tribute to the inspirations from the past, these unfortunately FAIL miserably! All in all, Thomann has unfortunately missed the boat with these and is sadly misleading customers into buying a shoddily thrown together mess that looks like a `59 LP Jr. I've owned 3 of the original `59 Jrs and these don't remind me of those originals at all other than the general appearance.

It's a real shame that Thomann cannot spend a little more effort and offer a really awesome simple DC Jr. guitar. All they would have to do to straighten out this model is insist to the builders that all parts be correctly aligned, reject any with necks with a nut width of less than 43mm.. Make the necks thicker - like >22.6mm at the 1st fret and > 25.4mm at the 12th fret just like the real `59s were. Spend a dollar more and change the bridge to a Musiclily Pro Badass Style. It sits lower, has wider intonation, and is much more comfortable on the hand. That would also allow the builders to lower the neck angle so that it lines up correctly over the pickup.

Insisting on the aforementioned minor changes would cost practically nothing, but would elevate this guitar to what it should be. The builders are definitely capable of making an outstanding guitar if only Thomann gave them a little more guidance and upped their expectation level and quality control. I guess these are okay if you have tiny hands and no concern for sound or play-ability.

I won't be mentioning "for it's price" in this review. I have owned a Maybach DC Jr, Gibson and Epi Specials and I also built my own DC Jr from scratch. If I had bought this HB Jr first I would not have bothered building my own!

Ordered this on Saturday and it arrived Friday No issues.

Out of the box, you could tune this and go. The action was good if a little high, but completely fine. Frets were smooth, intonation was close and at the nut, all but the low E were perfectly cut. Low E only required the slightest of filing.

Overall the quality of the build and finish was spotless. Not a big fan of the "faded" matt finish but a bit of Scratch-X will give it a lustre. Weight is 2.86Kg/6lb 5oz - just perfect for a Jr.

The fretboard is a very nice dark colour, and as I will be rounding the fretboard edges I did a test and it does not look like dye was used to get this colour.

Tuners are fine - smooth and accurate.

The electrics are very good. Both tone and volume roll off very smoothly all the way down. Cavity and cover are shielded and very tidy.

The pickups sound really great. Don't see myself changing them. I forgot it has push-pull until I was taking off the tone knob and it popped up! The extra tone possibilities is great. Either way, this thing snarls or sings a lullaby just like a Jr should. Really fun to play.

The bridge is fine. It's not the highest quality but very decent.

Overall, I can't see myself changing much on this guitar. I did strip it down and give it a setup and will be polishing it and rolling the fretboard, but in terms of hardware there is no need.

This is my 4th HB - Te-52, ST-62, CST-24P-90 and now the DC Jr. I find myself a fanboy :-)

Bottom line, If you don't have a DC Jr already, buy one of these!

UPDATE: A month or so later and it is the guitar I go for first. I did change the tailpiece but only because I had one hanging around.

UPDATE 2: This has become the guitar I automatically reach for.
I gave it a polish, changed the bridge and put in a Lollar P90 and a CTS tone pot. It is my desert island choice now.

Even with the upgrades, I still have change from €400. You will not find anything comparable for less than €1K

EDIT 3: Still one of my favourites. I changed the bridge to a Faber "TPWC-59NG Faber TPWC-'59 Vintage Spec ALU Compensated Wraparound Tailpiece" and put in a bone nut. This thing now outplays my Gibson LP Jr and my Eastman SB55/DC. Still under €450 invested in this.

This guitar is clearly based on the iconic Gibson Les Paul Junior double-cut but is actually improved in some ways (hence giving 5 stars for features from what is a very simple design of guitar)
1. The Gibson had a bridge that could only be intonated by adjusting it at the two anchor points at the end posts. This HB bridge also has individual saddles for each string giving the user much more control.
2. The Gibson had a single P90, this HB has a stacked P90 that cain be split. Meaning you can choose between the P90 or a humbucking version. I've found the differences subtle but there is enough variety to give you more control of your sound.

All that said, this is a fantastic guitar, particularly at such a low price point. The tuners are good (solid 15:1 ratio Wilkinsons), the controls (1 x volume, 1 x tone (with ability to split the pickup)) are simple, classic and effective. There are D'addario strings on the guitar. The fit and finish is excellent and I particularly like the translucent thin satin coating (though I wouldn't consider it to be "open pore"). The chubby neck feels great in the hand too.

In terms of sound this has a pretty powerful P90 style Roswell (HBs own brand) pickup and can growl or clean up really well. This is the first single-pickup guitar I've owned and you really have a lot of fun, and can get a remarkable array of tones, with just a tweak to volume and/or tone.

I saw Guitar Geek review this months ago on Youtube and have waited patiently for this to arrive in stock; I have not been disappointed. My advice is buy one of these, you cannot really go wrong!

I could be wrong, but as far as I know this is the only low buck quality fat neck guitar on the market. I wished there were even "fatter" neck guitars at reasonable prices for people with big hands/long fingers like me. I have a lot to say about this guitar and will do so, I'll also probably do other in-depth online reviews of it. First off, the shipping time to the US was amazing but unfortunately my local post office is having problems and it sit there for almost a week like everything else I order these days. But even with that I still received it intact within about 8 days. Quality of the guitar was basically perfect with one exception, the string nut. Strings were slightly cut to the right and the nut was also set to the right. Being a part time luthier I reset the nut to the left for the time being because my high E was slipping off the frets with my playing style... I contacted them and within no time at all they have sent me out another nut. EXCELLENT customer service! Top notch. So for the rest of the guitar: Simply put, it's great. I have a '97 Epi DC Special with a DLX Plus in the bridge and although the Harley has a different sound character to it, it just sounds so good, great harmonics, it's probably going to be my main "player" guitar.. I'll never part with it. The fat neck is the best part of this guitar and I wished it was even fatter. The only thing I did do to it was I spaced the pickup closer to the strings by ordering a spacer online and "custom" tapering it myself by hand so that the pickup closely follows the contour of the strings, from left to right and front to back, a known problem with dogear style P-90's. Took a few hours to get perfect but wow, huge sound improvement. If Harley would fix this it would instanly transform the guitar. I researched Nyatoh wood and from what I've read it's more stiff, tighter grained and slightly heavier than Mahogany. So, it sounds great for neck wood. This guitar weighs in at 7 pounds .07 ounces. Quite good for such a simple guitar. I do know that it seams to vibrate/resonate more than my '97 mahogany Epi DC. Others have complained about the bridge being too high, I don't have that problem and I actually like it the way it is because I'm a tone guy, I don't need super low action and I learned years ago that if it's too low my fingers will actually slip over the strings when I bend so I like more of a medium height action. That said, I did lower it a bit from the way it was received but I also added a bit of bow in the neck. I also flipped the G string saddle around because I ran out of room on the intonation adjustment for that string. This is my first "satin" finish guitar and it's nice because the neck is much less sticky, to the point that I have to handle the guitar carefully so I don't drop it. I bought this guitar because I wanted my version of the ultimate "player" guitar.... not a vintage collectible that you feel guilty playing all the time, no glossy flame top, no binding, no fancy inlays, nothing... just a thick neck and playability. The great thing about DC jr's is their upper fret access, the neck heel usually starts around the 20th fret, which is 2-3 frets higher than most others. So there is zero restriction on reaching the last 22nd fret. What else... The tuning machines are Wilkinson and work just fine. They're not fancy die-cast sealed units like grovers or others but they're vintage style and that's fine with me. Heavy sealed type are nice, I have many, but they just add more weight to the end to make it unbalanced and nose dive and I actually like the vintage look of the little butter beans. Ratio is fast at 15:1, which I also like. Fret work is spot on, a must. Even better than my 90's Gibsons or Epi's. The pickup kind of has it's own tone to it. it's mid-rangey "sort of" like a p-90 but very hot especially after I spaced it up. I measured the resistance on mine at 17.54k in dual coil mode and 8.94k in single coil.. The split coil switch really doesn't change the tone as much as you'd expect but mainly the output. But I actually like it. Not bad at all, just a bit different. I don't see myself replacing the pickup, I like it. It comes with a .047uf tone capacitor, which I've learned to like because it gives me more treble choke if I need it, and wide open the capacitor "shouldn't" change the brightness anyway so... Btw, it came with Alpha brand pots and they seem to work well, smooth taper. The volume pot is large, the push pull tone pot has a smaller base. So, that's about all I can say. I would definitely recommend this guitar to anyone who want's a thicker neck guitar and a simple jr single pickup style. I love it! I hope this honest review helps people.

I wanted to own a Doublecut Junior style guitar for a long time. I was really happy to see Harley Benton make junior models. It was a no brainer for me.

So here it goes

Pros:
Good looking finish with a satin feel.
Nice neck feel - also satin feel.
Good fretwork.
Coil tap is a plus.
Great playability.

Cons
Wasn't able to get a perfect setup on it. The action has to be set a bit high to avoid fret buzz. Maybe it could use some fret leveling.
Hardware is understandably cheap feeling. I would consider swapping the nut, bridge and pickup at some point. Maybe the tuners too.
Pickup sounds nice for this kinda price range. Worth considering an upgrade in the future.

All in all I love this guitar because it seems like most of the cost of it has gone into things that can't be easily changed, such as the fit and finish, the feel of the neck etc. And while the hardware is cheap it can easily be replaced.

Nice guitar, does require set up and tinkering but for the money would you not expect this? Solidly built, the important stuff done right. I did replace the bridge with a lightning-bolt style and the studs were in the perfect spot such that i didn't have to use the 2 screws to align anything so i took 'em out as not needed - intonation was perfect. Did have to deepen the nut slots. 2 minute solder job so the coil is split when tone in "up" position rather than down. The pickup sounds great in both single coil or humbucking mode. The fat neck is not Telecaster chunky baseball bat but comfortable - not really fat but slightly more than regular import C shape. Weight of the guitar is good. Really nice that it is solid mahogany with no veneers. Finish is done well. One could shoot a lacquer color over this without too much trouble if one wanted a custom color. I like low action and with the bridge replacement I was able to get it to play fantastic. Stock bridge didn't allow for real low action. Overall very pleased with the guitar. Shipping to USA west coast was amazingly fast too.